In 2012, we sailed from New Zealand to Thailand in order to do a complete refit of our 1969 Cross 46 trimaran “Migration”.
The work we planned was extensive (re-fiberglassing the topsides, painting the entire boat, varnishing the interior) and we knew we couldn’t do it ourselves in a reasonable period of time. Besides, we have both spent too many hours sanding and fairing old trimarans and wanted someone else to hold the sander for a change.
We traveled over 6,000 miles because we thought we would save a lot of money. Migration was in Thailand for 2 ½ years. Though Thailand is a fantastic place as a sailing destination for tourism, we have to say that going there for our refit was one of the worst decisions we ever made.
Extensive research on the internet and recommendations from friends indicated that work in Phuket was inexpensive and of good quality. Generally, it is neither. Prices over the last 5 years have skyrocketed as the number of boats in the area has increased, due in part to the piracy problems going to the Med. Contractors are overextended and many workers are inexperienced.
QUALITY
The biggest problem, however, is that the Thai definition of quality is not what most cruising boat owners desire. The marinas are overflowing with the very expensive yachts of local ex-pats who are looking for a shiny boat, not one that can take them across an ocean. The contractors have a great deal of work from these local boats and their workers are used to jobs with little or no oversight from the owners.
If you find someone who recommends the work in Phuket, it is important to ask how much time they actually spent watching that work happen. There is a strong correlation between how satisfied owners are and how little time they spend actually watching or supervising the work. Those who leave the keys with a contractor and head off for land travel are usually happy because everything looks shiny and new upon their return. But you must work alongside the workers every day to understand the inconsistency in quality. Excellent workmanship will be followed by terrible workmanship within minutes. Mistakes are covered over and the attitude prevails that more paint or filler or epoxy can fix anything as long as it looks good in the end. The concept that strength and longevity are paramount to a cruising yacht is difficult to make understood. The true quality of a paint job, or fiberglass repair, or new teak deck is not how it looks when the job is done, but how it looks and fares after 10 years of voyaging.
During our time in Thailand, we became friends with many locals, both Thai and ex-pats. The stories we heard from ex-pats who have lived there for 10 or 20 years confirm the problems we encountered with Thai workmanship.
LANGUAGE
The language problem is not to be underestimated. Thai is a tonal language and fairly difficult to speak so that you are understood. The alphabet has 44 consonants and 15 vowels. We never mastered reading. Most Thais do not speak English. Your contractor will speak English but most of his workers will not. And your contractor will not be there every day. Even if he says he will. Really.
CONTRACTORS
We are not saying that good contractors and workers cannot to be found. However, in Phuket, the ONLY recommendations we have are for the following:
- Painting: Oh Coatings
- Woodwork: Yachts Repair (Marly, near Yacht Haven)
- Metalwork: Tu-Ton (located behind East Marine)
- Fiberglass: We found no one with an excellent understanding of fiberglassing except Precision Shipwright Services, but you will be paying First World prices (or more). We hired Precision to make a new rudder for us (vacuum-bagged glass over foam) and the result was excellent. However, the cost was more than a new rudder in the USA even though we provided the rudder shaft and the fiberglass.
It’s important to note that we worked with at least 13 contractors and the majority of them were recommended to us. A good recommendation is not a guarantee that the contractor will be up to the job.
For information on contractors, we do not recommend, go to our blog where we have included a description of work carried out and photographs – http://brucebalan.com/migrations/BoatworkInThailand.htm
OTHER SERVICES
Do not have any mechanical work done. We cannot stress this enough. We have yet to meet anyone who was satisfied with engine or alternator work, or who did not end up in a worse situation than when they started. We know of four boats that left Phuket and ended up with serious engine issues shortly after having work done. Electronics work also seems to be of low quality.
PARTS AND MATERIALS
Local epoxy is reasonably priced. AME Chandlery provides fibreglass at a good price also. Teak, as you would expect, is cheap compared to the rest of the world.
The cost of imported parts and materials is extremely high. It is not uncommon to find mark-ups of 50% to 100%. Paint prices are very high as well.
It is difficult and expensive to import items. Thailand has high tariffs and a VAT of 7%. There is NO Yacht In Transit exemption. Customs are extremely bureaucratic and are notorious for making things difficult. You can ship items to duty-free Langkawi in Malaysia, about 125 NM Southeast, and sail there to pick them up. If your boat is not in a condition to sail, you can often find another boat to bring the goods to you — though you may have to wait a while.
HARDSTAND
Hardstand is expensive as well. Though we expected to pay less, we were paying 50% more in Thailand than we were in NZ. That said, the Ao Po Grand Marina hardstand was one of the best yards we have ever been in. This is due in a great part to Derrick, the manager, who was fantastic. The facilities are excellent and the yard crew took great care hauling and launching our boat. There are cheaper yards (G&T or Phuket Premier, for example) but the unfathomably popular Boat Lagoon is about 30% more expensive than Ao Po Grand Marina.
We are not writing this simply because we had a bad and expensive experience. In the end, our boat looks beautiful and will probably outlast us. However, if we had stayed in New Zealand, the result would have been a better, less-stressful refit that would have taken one-third of the time and therefore cost less. We are writing because we wish someone had told us what we now know before we came to Thailand.
DO VISIT THAILAND
All that said, do go to Thailand. It is a fantastic country and surely has the best food in the world. People are extremely friendly. One never tires of the gorgeous views in Phang Nga Bay. Even after 2 years of problems and stress, we realize that we really like the country… as long as we are not doing boat work or dealing with the Thai people in any business transaction.
We will be publishing a full account of our refit with photos and costs on our blog as soon as we have time to write it up. For now, our advice is, do not go to Phuket to have work done on your boat. And, if for some reason you must do boat work in Phuket, we highly recommend that you constantly monitor the work so that you know what is underneath your teak deck or glossy paint. We also highly recommend that you go to Thailand to enjoy the people, scenery, and most especially, the food.
Bruce Balan & Alene D. Rice
July 2015
s/v Migration
http://migrations.brucebalan.com
Update: A 2-year status report on our refit can be found at http://brucebalan.com/migrations/BoatworkInThailand-2YearsOn.htm
See also: Getting work done on your boat whilst long distance cruising: Cruisers Tips
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